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Post by frankie on Jan 22, 2012 13:59:30 GMT
Do you have an AUX input on your mini disc player ?
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Post by Jacqui on Jan 24, 2012 13:24:08 GMT
I don't see any Aux input on my mini disc. and yes the ipod out works ok when I put headphones in, So John I think what you are saying is, the best way is to connect and play the ipod is into a stereo channel either 7/8 or 9/10 so taking the stereo jack out from the ipod and two 1/4 mono jacks into one of those channels L & R that's the only way without buying a box, At the moment I put my mini disc into those two channels, I don't know why, just because I always have, but I put the two plugs into the top jacks inputs marked L left so guess they it will work the same into two mono channels 1-6. Or would that lead/or lead and adapter still work ok into the mono channel   |
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Post by Jacqui on Jan 24, 2012 13:54:49 GMT
This is what is says in my user manual
Mono inputs channelsElectronically balanced inputs for the connection of electronic instruments, such as keyboards, drum computers, E-guitars and E-basses with an active output, as well as all other high level signal sources, like additional mixers, FX units, CD player, etc. The LINE input is laid out for levels between -40dBu ... +30dBu. The connection of balanced or unbalanced signal sources is established through monaural or stereo phone plugs, assigned according to the diagram below. If the device that you are going to connect provides a balanced output stage, using balanced cables with stereo phone plugs is certainly preferable. This type of connection is greatly insensitive to the induction of external noise or HF interference.
Stereo Inputs channelsElectronically balanced inputs for the connection of musical instruments with stereo output, like keyboards, drum computers, E-guitars and E-basses with an active output as well as any equivalent sound source that provides a high level output; like additional mixing consoles, effect units, compact disc players, etc.The stereo LINE input is meant for balanced or unbalanced sound sources with levels between –20dBu and +30dBu. For the connection of external devices you can use monaural or stereo phone plugs which are in accordance to the diagram below. If the external appliance is equipped with a balanced output stage, you should preferably use balanced cables and plugs, since this type of connection provides better shielding against RF induction and external noise.
In case you want to connect a monaural signal source to one of the stereo input channels, you just have to plug it into the L/MONO input. The signal is internally linked to both channels.
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Post by Tubbs on Jan 24, 2012 15:04:08 GMT
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Post by JohnG on Jan 24, 2012 17:50:30 GMT
So John I think what you are saying is, the best way is to connect and play the ipod is into a stereo channel either 7/8 or 9/10 so taking the stereo jack out from the ipod and two 1/4 mono jacks into one of those channels L & R that's the only way without buying a box, At the moment I put my mini disc into those two channels, I don't know why, just because I always have, but I put the two plugs into the top jacks inputs marked L left so guess they it will work the same into two mono channels 1-6. Or would that lead/or lead and adapter still work ok into the mono channel Hi Jacqui, If you want to have EQ on it then the 1st lead I posted is what you need, this one: www.thomann.de/gb/pro_snake_tpy_2015_kpp.htm. If you look carefully you'll see a stereo 3.5 mm plug on the far left. Next to it is a mono 1/4" jack plug. On the right is another 1/4" jack plug. I read a pdf copy of the manual before I posted my first reply. It's exactly the same on my mixer, only channels 9/10 and 11/12. So, the 2 mono leads can either go into sockets 7 and 8 OR 9 and 10, your choice. When using either of these stereo pairs the pan control should be centred. Alternatively, you could put one 1/4" jack into, let's say 5, and the other in 6, or 3 and 4 if you wish, what ever is free.Then pan one hard left and the other hard right. You'll need the gain, sorry trim, turned up on the mixer, try 15 or more, and the volume on the iPod too. (The output needed to drive a pair of earbuds is typically less than that needed for the mixer.) The signal from the iPod is about 12dB down on normal line level, so it needs a boost. The best bet, Jacqui, would be to put the mini disc into 7 and 8 (centre the Pan control), and the iPod into 9 and 10 (ditto Pan). Then you have just one fader for disc the other for IPod. It's what I do and it works just fine on my Mackie desk. Obviously it would be better to get a DI box, which is what the pros always do, but it should work ok as I've outlined. Make sense? JohnG. |
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Post by Tubbs on Jan 24, 2012 19:38:06 GMT
I should also add Jacqui that i was having similar problems and this worked 100% for me on my ipod touch..  |
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Post by doricvision on Jan 24, 2012 23:07:37 GMT
John you are spot on and can I just add that if you use channels 3/4 or 5/6 you could possibly have some EQ on these channels depending on your Mixer
Bigmike
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Post by JohnG on Jan 25, 2012 8:06:00 GMT
Hi Mike,
Actually there is EQ available on the two stereo inputs 7/8 & 9/10 on Jacqui's mixer. I checked out the pdf manual first. It's very similar to my current mixer. It's only the 2 track input which has a -10dBV (domestic level) input that has none.
JohnG.
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Post by JohnG on Jan 25, 2012 8:12:38 GMT
That's a good article Gerry, very helpful for many people I imagine. The trouble is many people think "single jack one end, single jack the other." Without understanding the way TRS and TS plugs are connected and understanding that a TRS plug on a mixer is very rarely used for stereo. Well, never in my experience. TRS on a mixer is for a balanced line level signal. And that's another problem, most people don't understand how a balanced signal works compared to an unbalanced one. And, come to that, why should they? Regards, JohnG. |
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