Post by Emerald Midi on Oct 23, 2009 13:37:53 GMT
Below are comments posted by Shanless. These comments produced some interesting and positive responses which I feel are worthy of their own topic. I am hopeful we can further explore the way the discussion went, so, I have called it “Dealing with Negative Criticism at Gig.”
Like weegeo...I'm late to this post...I have a Shure PG1288 headset and a TOA WT-730 Wireless tuner for my guitar......they work fine together...my only fault would be that the 'guitar wireless' looses signal if I was approx 30ft away....I remembered the 1st time I used them in the local hotel...I was on one of the tables at the end of the night playing Southbound Train by Travis Tritt and the place was rockin'...and at the end of the night...this man came up to me and told me that ''it might catch on...but do you not think that you were showing off a bit'' !!!!!!!!!....I was F*@KN raging.......it wasn't his kind of music....but I tend not to do the TIT TIT TIT TIT stuff.......I rarely use them now.....but maybe this post has rekindled the spark in me again.
Maybe he was envious of the reaction you were getting.
I remember doing a great show one night, one of those where everything seemed perfect, great sound, great responsive crowd and I was in great voice, I even did a few encores. At the end of the night, while packing up a fellow comes up to me and says "you're not as good as you think you are" and walks away. I remember thinking you can't please everyone ;d
Thanks for the heads up on the headset mike and reciever weegoo, It's exactly the kind of advise I'd be looking for being a a newbie in the wi-fi arena. 
As for the piss heads who try to bother ye at the end of the gigs, I'd agree with JG, TIT TIT It and bite your lip, as I say so long as your enjoying yourself ... feck em. A lot of it is down to pure jealousy so ya must be doing something right if the whole place is rocking and your pissin one head off.
Tradman
You're so right Tradman,
It's often jealousy, or they're sitting with someone they fancy, who turns and says to them "why don't you shut up, I'm trying to listen to the singer!" Now you're in for it! They just HATE you.
A reply to "you're not as great as ... !" is a HUGE smile ;D and the reply "Oh, yes I am, actually I wasn't on form tonight!" Then I suggest you duck.
What they want to do is to mess you up as they had their evening messed up. They only have one grey cell, so can't work out it's them not you, so they blame you. i.e. they're not worth bothering about. If you let them get to you, they've won.
Look 'em right in the eyes, and give them that big understanding smile that says "I know what's eating you" and thank them for their feedback. In other words treat them exactly the same as someone who comes up and says really quietly "that was a great show, can't tell you how much I enjoyed it!"
When I worked for ICL I had a manager who was always insultingly critical directly after I had done a presentation. Often excellent feedback from the customer or seminar participants. I used to get so deflated and hurt until somebody said, "that's what he wants to see, he likes to see people being and feeling hurt! He geys off on it. It's his way of "managing" you. Show him he can't get to you."
Next time when he slated me I said "thank you Dennis, that was really helpful, constructive criticism!" and gave him a big smile looking right into the eyes. The look of astonishment on his face had to be seen to be believed. It floored him, and he never criticised me again.
I believe I learnt a very valuable life lesson at that moment.
Why do this? Because actually they're telling you, in a back handed way, that it was a great performance. They couldn't do it, and that's why they're so p1ss@d off!
And to the "showin' off" remark, again BIG smile and "Yea! Right on baby!"
Why shouldn't you show off if you have a talent, after all it is a "show" you're doing, showmanship, that's the frickin business. If you're not showing off, you shouldn't be there on stage fer cripes sake! "If you've got it, flaunt it!" someone said.
Take it for the compliment it is.
As usual, just my 2d worth.
JohnG.
Oh, and isn't there a dog latin phrase, "nihil illegitimi carborundum", "don't let the b@st@rds grind you down."
You're so right Tradman,
It's often jealousy, or they're sitting with someone they fancy, who turns and says to them "why don't you shut up, I'm trying to listen to the singer!" Now you're in for it! They just HATE you.
A reply to "you're not as great as ... !" is a HUGE smile ;D and the reply "Oh, yes I am, actually I wasn't on form tonight!" Then I suggest you duck.
What they want to do is to mess you up as they had their evening messed up. They only have one grey cell, so can't work out it's them not you, so they blame you. i.e. they're not worth bothering about. If you let them get to you, they've won.
Look 'em right in the eyes, and give them that big understanding smile that says "I know what's eating you" and thank them for their feedback. In other words treat them exactly the same as someone who comes up and says really quietly "that was a great show, can't tell you how much I enjoyed it!"
When I worked for ICL I had a manager who was always insultingly critical directly after I had done a presentation. Often excellent feedback from the customer or seminar participants. I used to get so deflated and hurt until somebody said, "that's what he wants to see, he likes to see people being and feeling hurt! He geys off on it. It's his way of "managing" you. Show him he can't get to you."
Next time when he slated me I said "thank you Dennis, that was really helpful, constructive criticism!" and gave him a big smile looking right into the eyes. The look of astonishment on his face had to be seen to be believed. It floored him, and he never criticised me again.
I believe I learnt a very valuable life lesson at that moment.
Why do this? Because actually they're telling you, in a back handed way, that it was a great performance. They couldn't do it, and that's why they're so p1ss@d off!
And to the "showin' off" remark, again BIG smile and "Yea! Right on baby!"
Why shouldn't you show off if you have a talent, after all it is a "show" you're doing, showmanship, that's the frickin business. If you're not showing off, you shouldn't be there on stage fer cripes sake! "If you've got it, flaunt it!" someone said.
Take it for the compliment it is.
As usual, just my 2d worth.
JohnG.
Oh, and isn't there a dog latin phrase, "nihil illegitimi carborundum", "don't let the b@st@rds grind you down."
I am gong to frame this post. Nice one, John.
PS...will you be my next councillor.
lol lol lol when someone said that to me about the show i always said `your right but at least it didn`t cost me a fiver to find that out` a sure fire leveller lol lol lol
weegeo----------- in the corner as brilliant as ever and that didn`t cost me a fiver lol lol
I am gong to frame this post. Nice one, John.
PS...will you be my next councillor.
Crikey Pat!
Do you know what my daily rates are?
Ask first then ask me again!
I'm flattered, actually. ;D
JG
I remember doing a great show one night, one of those where everything seemed perfect, great sound, great responsive crowd and I was in great voice, I even did a few encores. At the end of the night, while packing up a fellow comes up to me and says "you're not as good as you think you are" and walks away. I remember thinking you can't please everyone ;d
As for the piss heads who try to bother ye at the end of the gigs, I'd agree with JG, TIT TIT It and bite your lip, as I say so long as your enjoying yourself ... feck em. A lot of it is down to pure jealousy so ya must be doing something right if the whole place is rocking and your pissin one head off.
Tradman
It's often jealousy, or they're sitting with someone they fancy, who turns and says to them "why don't you shut up, I'm trying to listen to the singer!" Now you're in for it! They just HATE you.
A reply to "you're not as great as ... !" is a HUGE smile ;D and the reply "Oh, yes I am, actually I wasn't on form tonight!" Then I suggest you duck.
What they want to do is to mess you up as they had their evening messed up. They only have one grey cell, so can't work out it's them not you, so they blame you. i.e. they're not worth bothering about. If you let them get to you, they've won.
Look 'em right in the eyes, and give them that big understanding smile that says "I know what's eating you" and thank them for their feedback. In other words treat them exactly the same as someone who comes up and says really quietly "that was a great show, can't tell you how much I enjoyed it!"
When I worked for ICL I had a manager who was always insultingly critical directly after I had done a presentation. Often excellent feedback from the customer or seminar participants. I used to get so deflated and hurt until somebody said, "that's what he wants to see, he likes to see people being and feeling hurt! He geys off on it. It's his way of "managing" you. Show him he can't get to you."
Next time when he slated me I said "thank you Dennis, that was really helpful, constructive criticism!" and gave him a big smile looking right into the eyes. The look of astonishment on his face had to be seen to be believed. It floored him, and he never criticised me again.
I believe I learnt a very valuable life lesson at that moment.
Why do this? Because actually they're telling you, in a back handed way, that it was a great performance. They couldn't do it, and that's why they're so p1ss@d off!
And to the "showin' off" remark, again BIG smile and "Yea! Right on baby!"
Why shouldn't you show off if you have a talent, after all it is a "show" you're doing, showmanship, that's the frickin business. If you're not showing off, you shouldn't be there on stage fer cripes sake! "If you've got it, flaunt it!" someone said.
Take it for the compliment it is.
As usual, just my 2d worth.
JohnG.
Oh, and isn't there a dog latin phrase, "nihil illegitimi carborundum", "don't let the b@st@rds grind you down."
It's often jealousy, or they're sitting with someone they fancy, who turns and says to them "why don't you shut up, I'm trying to listen to the singer!" Now you're in for it! They just HATE you.
A reply to "you're not as great as ... !" is a HUGE smile ;D and the reply "Oh, yes I am, actually I wasn't on form tonight!" Then I suggest you duck.
What they want to do is to mess you up as they had their evening messed up. They only have one grey cell, so can't work out it's them not you, so they blame you. i.e. they're not worth bothering about. If you let them get to you, they've won.
Look 'em right in the eyes, and give them that big understanding smile that says "I know what's eating you" and thank them for their feedback. In other words treat them exactly the same as someone who comes up and says really quietly "that was a great show, can't tell you how much I enjoyed it!"
When I worked for ICL I had a manager who was always insultingly critical directly after I had done a presentation. Often excellent feedback from the customer or seminar participants. I used to get so deflated and hurt until somebody said, "that's what he wants to see, he likes to see people being and feeling hurt! He geys off on it. It's his way of "managing" you. Show him he can't get to you."
Next time when he slated me I said "thank you Dennis, that was really helpful, constructive criticism!" and gave him a big smile looking right into the eyes. The look of astonishment on his face had to be seen to be believed. It floored him, and he never criticised me again.
I believe I learnt a very valuable life lesson at that moment.
Why do this? Because actually they're telling you, in a back handed way, that it was a great performance. They couldn't do it, and that's why they're so p1ss@d off!
And to the "showin' off" remark, again BIG smile and "Yea! Right on baby!"
Why shouldn't you show off if you have a talent, after all it is a "show" you're doing, showmanship, that's the frickin business. If you're not showing off, you shouldn't be there on stage fer cripes sake! "If you've got it, flaunt it!" someone said.
Take it for the compliment it is.
As usual, just my 2d worth.
JohnG.
Oh, and isn't there a dog latin phrase, "nihil illegitimi carborundum", "don't let the b@st@rds grind you down."
I am gong to frame this post. Nice one, John.
PS...will you be my next councillor.
weegeo----------- in the corner as brilliant as ever and that didn`t cost me a fiver lol lol
I am gong to frame this post. Nice one, John.
PS...will you be my next councillor.
Crikey Pat!
Do you know what my daily rates are?
Ask first then ask me again!
I'm flattered, actually. ;D
JG
