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Post by JazzCat on Dec 19, 2013 23:38:18 GMT
For starters, and before we try to incorporate a Ketron SD2 into a live situation, I need to know how to use a Roland A-37 (76 key keyboard controller) to access the patches on a Ketron SD2 sound module.
The Ketron SD2 does not have any buttons, knobs nor a screen.
It has only a power switch, a volume slider, power on light, a MIDI activity light and one IN MIDI port and one OUT port. That's it. This means I can't set up a receive channel on the SD2. In the past I have only used it with a MIDI interface to my computer and changed patches in a sequencing program so I had no problems. trying to use it live is a whole 'nuther ball of wax.
I want my partner to be able to use it live with his other sound modules but without being able to call up the patches from the A-37 we're not able to do it. Can anyone help??
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Post by JohnG on Dec 20, 2013 10:17:25 GMT
Hi Cat,
Good to see you around.
I answered the question over on my tutor forum.
Kind regards,
JohnG.
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Post by Tubbs on Dec 23, 2013 16:13:21 GMT
Hi Cat, Good to see you around. I answered the question over on my tutor forum. Kind regards, JohnG. But the question was asked here on this forum John, why would you answer it on your forum? |
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Post by JohnG on Dec 23, 2013 18:07:18 GMT
Because, Gerry, she asked the identical question over on my forum, as you'll see if you login there.
I happened to log into my own site first, answered the question, then came over here and found that Cat had asked the same question here too.
(I see from comparing the posted date and time that she did ask the question here a day earlier than on my site, but I didn't notice that at the time.)
Is it a problem?
JohnG.
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Post by Tubbs on Dec 23, 2013 20:59:42 GMT
Because, Gerry, she asked the identical question over on my forum, as you'll see if you login there. I happened to log into my own site first, answered the question, then came over here and found that Cat had asked the same question here too. (I see from comparing the posted date and time that she did ask the question here a day earlier than on my site, but I didn't notice that at the time.) Is it a problem? JohnG. No, it's not a problem as such John. However, the question was asked here too and some members may not know you have your own forum so it might confuse them a little . Maybe you could copy and paste the reply you gave Cat here too? |
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Post by JohnG on Dec 24, 2013 10:14:51 GMT
Howdy Cat, long time no see! If you go to the Ketron USA site here www.ketron.com/specs_descrit.asp?mod=SD2 and find your way to product specifications and the "FAQ" page you will see the forth Q/A gives you a synopsis of the way the SD2 uses a combination of Bank Select and Program Change messages to access the voices. The first column of the table tells us that it only uses CC#00 (Bank Select MSB), followed by a Program Change message, that is, it doesn't require Bank Select LSB (CC#32) in addition. But it only uses CC#00 set to values of 00, 01, 02 and 10. These Bank Select messages, followed by Program Change messages, are normally coded into a standard MIDI file at the start of each track for the MIDI channel. For a controller we have to enter them and hopefully store them as a preset. For the A37, refer to the manual, downloadable from here: www.rolandus.com/products/details/276/support/, go to the control tab for the pdf manual download, and then to section 5.4 (PRG CHG parameters) of the manual, which tells you how to enter them initially. Then jump to section 6.3 (Working with Patches) which tells you how to store them as presets or patches, if you prefer. It would seem then that a simple button press or two can recall and send the complete message pair (or trio if an LSB were needed, which it isn't for the A37). That's it in a nutshell. Do ask if you need more clarification. All the best, JohnG. P.S. I hear that Michael McDonald is in a very poor state of health. Did you know? |
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Post by Tubbs on Dec 24, 2013 20:21:57 GMT
Howdy Cat, long time no see! If you go to the Ketron USA site here www.ketron.com/specs_descrit.asp?mod=SD2 and find your way to product specifications and the "FAQ" page you will see the forth Q/A gives you a synopsis of the way the SD2 uses a combination of Bank Select and Program Change messages to access the voices. The first column of the table tells us that it only uses CC#00 (Bank Select MSB), followed by a Program Change message, that is, it doesn't require Bank Select LSB (CC#32) in addition. But it only uses CC#00 set to values of 00, 01, 02 and 10. These Bank Select messages, followed by Program Change messages, are normally coded into a standard MIDI file at the start of each track for the MIDI channel. For a controller we have to enter them and hopefully store them as a preset. For the A37, refer to the manual, downloadable from here: www.rolandus.com/products/details/276/support/, go to the control tab for the pdf manual download, and then to section 5.4 (PRG CHG parameters) of the manual, which tells you how to enter them initially. Then jump to section 6.3 (Working with Patches) which tells you how to store them as presets or patches, if you prefer. It would seem then that a simple button press or two can recall and send the complete message pair (or trio if an LSB were needed, which it isn't for the A37). That's it in a nutshell. Do ask if you need more clarification. All the best, JohnG. P.S. I hear that Michael McDonald is in a very poor state of health. Did you know? Thank you John. |
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Post by JazzCat on Dec 27, 2013 20:12:23 GMT
(as posted to the MIDI Tutorials forum) Hi John, Thanks, I knew you'd reply. I almost asked you via an email but thought, eh, what the heck. I haven't touched the forums in ages so to kill two birds ( let everyone know I'm still kickin' and get a bit of help) I came here. What I don't know is what channel the SD2 receives on. As far as I know there is no way to tell it what channel to receive on. Not even sure if that's needed. We are going to pull it out today and try again. I might be back asking more dumb stuff! David knows his equipment pretty well but I think you reminded him of something that he brain farted on! BTW, I believe the SD2 specs are not entirely correct. It says it has 32 channels. How could it with only one MIDI IN and one MIDI THRU port? I got a hold of Mike through facebook and he wrote me a pretty long email regarding how his health has failed big time. It makes me pretty sad to hear it. I still haven't finished my reply to him and it's been since before Xmas that he wrote to me. Poor Mike has been in a bad way for years and years but now... well.....  |
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Post by JazzCat on Dec 27, 2013 20:16:26 GMT
Got it working. Don't know why it didn't the first time we tried. Was quick and easy... thanks to you.
David is really jazzed about having access to some very much updated and more realistic sounds than his vintage Alesis S4 module provides.
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