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Post by frankie on Aug 4, 2012 9:18:46 GMT
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Post by Tubbs on Aug 4, 2012 9:26:25 GMT
Interesting Frank, are you taking them? As well as eating fish twice weekly i do take a supplement....i might start taking these, just gonna read up on it a bit more.... ( Just gonna move this to health related issues mate... )
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Post by JohnG on Aug 4, 2012 10:42:28 GMT
A word of warning.
Whilst thoroughly agreeing on Omega 3 being part of a balanced diet, better obtained by eating fish, and NOT farmed fish, do watch out for claims of so-called "proof" offered by people selling these products. A lot of it is not substantive proof. Many companies still quote trials that have later proved to be false.
Anyone would do well remembering that major pharmaceuticals have recently been heavily fined (millions) for making false claims and hiding evidence of harm done by certain drugs. My own doctor advised that certain substances in vitamin supplements I was taking actually were in a form not absorbable by the body and therefore could not benefit me at all. There was no doubt that the substances were in the supplements, but were of absolutely no use to me.
Check out sites like the World Health Organisation on Nutrition before jumping.
If you can't find anything on a new "wonder" compound, act with extreme caution. It may be good, but it may have disastrous side effects like premature kidney or liver failure. Your heart may benefit but that isn't much use if your liver fails. Wait for the evidence to be clear.
It's like the evidence on climate change. Recent examination of temperature readings across the USA show that the previous science is significantly faulty. The claims of temperature rise in the next ten years have been revised down to roughly a third of what they were.
Lesson, don't ask a "green" to summarise the evidence or anyone with a vested interest (like being paid by a drugs company) to give you health advice.
Caveat emptor. Just my 2d, as usual. JohnG.
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Post by Tubbs on Aug 4, 2012 12:11:41 GMT
A word of warning. Whilst thoroughly agreeing on Omega 3 being part of a balanced diet, better obtained by eating fish, and NOT farmed fish, do watch out for claims of so-called "proof" offered by people selling these products. A lot of it is not substantive proof. Many companies still quote trials that have later proved to be false. Anyone would do well remembering that major pharmaceuticals have recently been heavily fined (millions) for making false claims and hiding evidence of harm done by certain drugs. My own doctor advised that certain substances in vitamin supplements I was taking actually were in a form not absorbable by the body and therefore could not benefit me at all. There was no doubt that the substances were in the supplements, but were of absolutely no use to me. Check out sites like the World Health Organisation on Nutrition before jumping. If you can't find anything on a new "wonder" compound, act with extreme caution. It may be good, but it may have disastrous side effects like premature kidney or liver failure. Your heart may benefit but that isn't much use if your liver fails. Wait for the evidence to be clear. It's like the evidence on climate change. Recent examination of temperature readings across the USA show that the previous science is significantly faulty. The claims of temperature rise in the next ten years have been revised down to roughly a third of what they were. Lesson, don't ask a "green" to summarise the evidence or anyone with a vested interest (like being paid by a drugs company) to give you health advice. Caveat emptor. Just my 2d, as usual. JohnG. Very true John, and i don't think their will ever be a wonder food/plant/herb that will let us live eternally, i have to add though that recent research has suggested that farmed salmon might actually contain higher doses of omega 3 due to the farmers feeding them food that contains (yes you guessed it) omega 3 !! Crazy world i know.. My cardiologist has prescribed me lipitor (some research proves it may harm the liver) to lower cholestrol, aspirin (anti-coagulant and anti-inflammatory), cardicor (beta-blocker which makes my heart beat slower than our 15 year old labrador) and omacor...a omega packed capsule.....so whats the lesser of 2 evils??? I do hope to be able to stop some of these medications long term however, largely thanks to some research i did recommended by Frank and with advice from my Doctor. I do agree with you generally though...their is a lot of dodgy claims out there.. Gerry...........in training for the 2016 Olympics with fellow tri-athletes weegeo and frank... ;D
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Post by JohnG on Aug 4, 2012 14:44:11 GMT
You're quite right about the Omega 3 content but, for one, I know that wild salmon tastes much better ... my own research. The salmon don't get as much exercise in the cages as they would in the wild, and have a fairly fixed diet. Maybe that's why.
A recent study showed that some, not all, farmed salmon seemed to contain, in some cases, more pollutants. It's being raised either in closed systems, lakes etc., or at the mouths of rivers which carry waste materials to the sea, including the agrochemicals we use. The studies are not yet in as to whether the levels are injurious to health.
I try to vary the fish a bit including mackerel and sardines or pilchards. I believe it's the variety that's also good for us. My Dad used to say "everything ... in moderation." Trouble was, he didn't follow it himself, with the ciggies.
That's life, I suppose! JohnG.
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Post by frankie on Aug 4, 2012 15:13:52 GMT
Buy a beach rod and catch your own. Most UK sea fish contain Omega 3.Good relaxing sport stock the freezer up. [started on wild krill last week,gonna get blood tests in a couple of weeks will let you know]
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Post by weegeo on Aug 5, 2012 10:51:50 GMT
Like to add a little if i may `lipitor`was a drug i used for 2/3 years and it had very little effect on my cholestrol and i blamed it on giving me headaches i am now on a drug called`simvastatin`and it is absolutely brilliant well worth considering.Omega 3 as a supplement is fine but as John says it`s much better taken in it`s natural form fish and so on my GP has advised me against the omega caps as has been said it is imperative that you research the drugs that you are being prescribed there is so much `generic`drugs on the market now that you need to be careful.I was on a drug called `methatrexiate`for 5 years and it has given my a fibrosis in my good lung my breathing capacity is severley hampered [good if your taking an alcohol breath test lol]this something that can`t ever be reversed so please becareful and read all the leaflets. As for 2016 Olympics `Tubbs,Frankie and me have gold in the bag lol lol lol
weegeo------------------ in strict training with a large vodka but no fattening mixer lol
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Post by shyamwestwind on Aug 6, 2012 5:20:20 GMT
Gosh, too much to read on and too many choices , too many opinions,.......... tough to know the absolute truth. As JohnG said, I think eating good fish in all the varieties available, is the best and its YUMMY too. tasted quite a lot of the Fish n Chips during my visit to the U.K. last May . Yes they were prepared really well but I cant help saying that the fish we get in our parts , especially from the Arabian Sea, is far tastier. I tried the mussels and prawn from there too, but its not as tasty as ours !!! Sorry guys, but thats the truth .I wish I could send you some seafood from here to make you agree !!
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Post by Jacqui on Aug 25, 2012 13:49:28 GMT
Sounds like your all a very swimmingly healthy bunch of lads. Jacqui, just sitting on a rock, descaling my Mermaid tail
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Post by weegeo on Aug 25, 2012 13:59:29 GMT
I always knew you were a little `siren` lol lol
weegeo------------------ in the corner putting a little mermaid food on his line lol lol
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Post by Tubbs on Aug 25, 2012 20:22:11 GMT
I always knew you were a little `siren` lol lol weegeo------------------ in the corner putting a little mermaid food on his line lol lol ;D ;D ;D
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