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Post by kenja on Jul 18, 2012 12:31:38 GMT
I make my backing tracks from a midi base by editing out unwanted tracks and maybe altering some voices and volumes etc. Sometimes inserting a click track intro.
Many midis do not have their input and output channels lined up and unless they are it causes all sorts of complications. If I try to line them up then often everyting is out of place and voices change or disappear etc. I can achieve it sometimes but many times I just have to give up.
Why is it that midi writers do this?
On most (all that I have seen) Midi Magic midis the inputs and the outputs are always lined up.
I don't expect an easy solution as the answer will no doubt be too compilcated for me but I just wondered if anyone else has this problem or even has an easy solution which I might be able to grasp.
Ken
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Post by JohnG on Jul 18, 2012 13:31:02 GMT
Hi Ken,
Can you clarify what you mean by MIDI inputs and outputs, please?
To me inputs are how you are able to play from e.g. a keyboard into a sequencing program.
That is, the channel on which the MIDI data arrives into the computer.
I'm guessing that you mean the sequencer track number doesn't match the MIDI channel number.
Am I right?
On many programs it's easy, if one is playing in the track, to move it to the top of the screen and lay down the tracks in a sort of random order.
Also, when using a style file to create part of the backing, this doesn't always get laid down in a completely logical fashion from a human point of view. It does make sense from the style creation program's viewpoint though.
In XGworks tracks can be dragged and dropped into place so it's easy to reorder tracks in their assigned MIDI channel order. When the track is moved it carries with it ALL the information, including assigned voice, etc.
Any good sequencing program should allow you to do this.
Regards,
JohnG.
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Post by kenja on Jul 19, 2012 17:45:23 GMT
Hi John
Yes you're right, the sequencer track number doesn't match the MIDI channel number and this causes me no end of trouble getting them aligned. I still use a Yamaha QY700 and have not been able to graduate to a computer based system even though I do have computer software to do this.
Ken
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Post by JohnG on Jul 20, 2012 7:27:04 GMT
Hi Ken,
Sadly, I can't help you with the QY700. I dare say that it's possible to do want you want but I haven't a clue (right now) how. But I will download the manual, if available, and see whether I can figure it out.
With XGworks, which I use most frequently of all the s/w I have, it's a simple case of dragging the whole track, by clicking and holding the track number, up or down to the 'correct' position, and it's done.
I'll see if I can find the manual.
Regards,
JohnG.
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Post by frankie on Jul 20, 2012 21:46:05 GMT
You need a sequencer programe on your PC to sort the tracks.On cakewalk you just renumber them to suit.
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Post by frankie on Jul 21, 2012 11:36:37 GMT
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Post by themd21 on Jul 26, 2012 22:07:34 GMT
If I'm right The Qy700 sequences in midi format 1.
If you convert the file to midi format 0 it should solve the issue.
Jimmy
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Post by kenja on Aug 1, 2012 12:45:35 GMT
Hi Jimmy
Actually the QY700 can load midi0 and midi1 and can save them as midi0 or midi1.So loading a midi1 file then saving it as midi0? Would that re-align the tracks. I'll have to try it and find out although I am sceptical.
Ken
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Post by kenja on Aug 1, 2012 13:03:22 GMT
Hi Jimmy
Actually the QY700 can load midi0 and midi1 and can save them as midi0 or midi1.So loading a midi1 file then saving it as midi0? Would that re-align the tracks. I'll have to try it and find out although I am sceptical.
Actually I have both cakewalk Pro Audio 9 and Sonar but have given up on them as they seem to complex and I haven't had the time to study them properly otherwise I would never get anything done!
Ken
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Post by JazzCat on Aug 3, 2012 18:40:30 GMT
I don't understand why track numbers and channel numbers being the same are important to you. Guess you would have to explain that to me.
I do believe saving as a type 0 file will do it for you, quickly and easily.
If you are using Windows XP, I have a program that would be much easier for you to use than Cakewalk or Sonar. Let me know.
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Post by geordiebennett on Aug 3, 2012 20:06:38 GMT
Hi JazzCat,
I would like a go at your program if you wouldn't mind.I use Cakewalk pro but mostly I do all my editing on a Tecnic 2000 keyboard which is brilliant.I'd like a go on your program mostly for a bit of a change.
Geordie
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Post by JazzCat on Aug 3, 2012 21:43:01 GMT
You have to have XP for it to work. The program is no longer supported or made by the company it came from, so someone with a bit of savvy found a way to make it work in trial mode forever, but only in XP.
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Post by JazzCat on Aug 3, 2012 21:59:11 GMT
BTW, software editing is much easier than editing via hardware.
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Post by JohnG on Aug 4, 2012 14:51:36 GMT
+1 on what JazzCat says.
It's a doddle to do with XGworks too.
XGworks will work in Win 7 if you install it using administrators mode, I'm reliably informed.
JohnG.
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