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Post by partygal on Mar 14, 2012 18:04:36 GMT
Hi, just rec'd my new Roland MT 90u player. I have used my Yamaha PSR630 keyboard to play midi files for past 12 years, drums & bass only. I hooked this Roland up to my PA last night, and the drums sound like a tin can, but the bass sounds close to the keyboard sound. I wondered if anyone had this experience, or should I send it back. I rather lug around the keyboard with the wicked sound I'm use to than go with less.
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Post by partygal on Mar 14, 2012 18:06:45 GMT
I should add that I am looking for a simpler way to play my background bass & drums than through the the keyboard...it's becoming old.
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Post by geordiebennett on Mar 14, 2012 21:17:56 GMT
Hi Partygirl, I've been using a Roland SD 35 for years but the drums and sounds are crap,I midied it through my Tecnic keyboard and use the sounds from it which are really real sounding.The only reason I got the Roland was because it takes about ten seconds to load a midi in my keyboard but the Roland is instant which is what you need if you're gigging.It's a bind having to lug the keyboard about but worth it. Geordie
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Post by frankie on Mar 14, 2012 22:27:47 GMT
There was a post here a while back about these sounding like a Jap Disco.Get your money back and try and find a similar product made by Yamaha.
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Post by freeway on Mar 14, 2012 23:32:16 GMT
Ya I agree with Frank you'd need to be using the full midi files to get the most out of them players using just the drums sound woeful tried it myself a few years ago. Have you thought about maybe using a drum machine with bass lines a friend of mine used to have one of these and he found them excellent. Boss make excellent drum machines and the bass sounds are top class also the only drawback is you'd need to prog in the bass lines which can be a bit of an ordeal if your new to it. But beats lugging a keyboard around all the time.....I'm sure you'd pick up one of these handy on Ebay. Here's a link to the one he used to have ..... www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/227931-REG/Boss_DR_670_DR_670_DR_RHYTHM.html Barry
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Post by simmo123 on Mar 15, 2012 11:55:52 GMT
Hi Party gal (love the name) i went through similar probs before i became aware of midifiles,i started with a very cheap drum machine which did the job but with very poor drum sounds & having no bass guitar sounds it was only really good for keeping the timing for my guitar & vocals but other than that it came across as being a very artificial sounding performance,i then went through the stage of selling & upgrading to more expensive models which had more realistic sounds until i arrived at the top of the range model at that time which was the Boss 880,this machine had to me at that time the best sounds,as it was mentioned by Freeway it is a really long process adding the bass line & drum fills to the various drum tracks but with a little help from younger brother who plays bass i finally was able to make up around about 10-15 completed backing tracks (no computer involved) then to my suprise i discovered that the very reason i had bought this machine was firstly because it was battery / mains power & secondly i was hoping to store around 70 completed tracks on the machine which would have been heaps at that stage to take to the oldies concerts i was doing....now i find out that there is only a small amount of memory on the machine in which to store tracks ( 10 to 15 depending on the lenth of the song.After limited success I then discovered the world of midi by joining up with what has now become Midi Hangout,the rest is history.I have advanced to a stage whereby i can edit the midifiles to suit my self eg.temo keys speeds etc,as well as this I have now made up for myself some tracks( by using just the midi drums tracks taken from suitable midifiles) a couple of tracks with up to 5 minutes long with just the midi drums on,also both set at different speeds which allows me in the event of having to do a bit of the oldtime singalong stuff of which i have no backing for i am now able to get a reasonable sound by the time i add my rhythm guitar & vocals ,the other good thing is that if they get up to have a jig around the floor by the time the track has ended they are usually buggered,this works well with stuff like the barn dance etc,the other bonus is that because there is no bass guitar to follow it actually ties in very well with most of this type of songs.Just to follow on with the making of the midi drum track, because they are opened up in my cakewalk sonar le programme i am able to increase the lenth of the tracks plus take out any fills etc also set the speed as well so that i am left with a straight out drum track which i then put into firstly Wav format & then Mp3 format,all i have to do is to load the completed tracks onto my Mblaster 2 player via usb cable.Sorry if i rambled on a bit but it must be an age thing..one thing i forgot to mention which is most important to ensure that i get quality sounding ( in this case) drums,i use my sound module to capture more realistic drum sounds from the midi drum track.Sorry if i have now totally confused you "Party Girl" but i am sure some of the more qualified members will guide you through the process.....Regards.....Ole Simmo going to have a lie down.... ;D
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Post by geordiebennett on Mar 15, 2012 21:23:30 GMT
Hi Simmo, You seem to back to your old self and full of it,it's nice to see. Geordie
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