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Post by oliver101 on Jun 8, 2011 15:42:56 GMT
Next time you have a dry or sore throat, try sucking on a piece of pineapple. It puts a coating around the back of the throat. I was told the trick by a part time opera singer and it does help. Any other vocal tips anyone?
Ian
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Post by Tubbs on Jun 8, 2011 18:30:05 GMT
Good tip Oliver...must try that!! My throat gargle remedies usually involve a minimum of 15% alcohol..
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Post by weeo on Jun 8, 2011 19:00:22 GMT
I'll try that one Oliver--don't suppose you've got a tip for a lost falsetto? Maybe it's old age but my falsetto voice is disappearing rapidly. I used to do a Roy Orbison show and could hit those high notes no problem. Now i'm having to drop keys,which i hate doing. Has anyone else had this problem? I'd love to hear if there's some kind of exercise,or anything else i could try. Regards Eddie
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Post by oliver101 on Jun 8, 2011 19:17:26 GMT
Eddie, I had never thought about losing falsetto before so I just tried it out and I dont think I can go as high as I used to be able to, so I tried something out. Keeping your head level sing a comfotably high falsetto note then lean your head back from the neck, the falsetto note dissapears as the neck leans back. Now try the same note again but lean the head slightly forward from the neck and it feels alot more comfortable thus hopefully enabling you to gain another tone or two up. See if it works for you Eddie, it might just be me that it works for. Can others try it and let us know. If it is just me I will admit myself to the Asylum for further analysis and report back.
Ian
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Post by geordiebennett on Jun 8, 2011 19:51:47 GMT
I use a drop of Green Chartreuse for a sore or dry throat when I'm singing,unless you're Gerry you can burn off the alcohol.I used to be able to break my voice and yodel but not any more,I think it's the age plus smoking. Geordie
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Post by JohnG on Jun 9, 2011 9:56:58 GMT
Eddie, I had never thought about losing falsetto before so I just tried it out and I dont think I can go as high as I used to be able to, so I tried something out. Keeping your head level sing a comfotably high falsetto note then lean your head back from the neck, the falsetto note dissapears as the neck leans back. Now try the same note again but lean the head slightly forward from the neck and it feels alot more comfortable thus hopefully enabling you to gain another tone or two up. See if it works for you Eddie, it might just be me that it works for. Can others try it and let us know. If it is just me I will admit myself to the Asylum for further analysis and report back. Ian My singing teacher, professionally trained and a professional counter-tenor, advocates a similar method. He says don't stretch up for the highest notes, quite the opposite. Feet planted firmly with heels down, not on tiptoes, and for the highest notes bend at the knees very slightly so that the bottom of the hips move forward, again very slightly, and the bottom 'tucks in', i.e. observers shouldn't notice this slight change in stance. And, as you say, look straight ahead or even very slightly downward, and imagine the sound in the top of your head for falsetto. It has helped me sing almost to the pitch I could as a choir boy, in falsetto, and much higher than I thought possible in my conventional range. So no asylum for you, Ian, unless you're taking me with you! He also gets me to warm up singing arpeggios (root, 3rd, 5th, 8ve, 5th 3rd root) gradually working up the scale, focussing on getting the top note exactly on key and pure and clean. You may slow down slightly to hit that top note. Try it with and without vibrato for control. Also cycles, staccato and legato. Warming up and regular practice are key to getting the voice strong. I do some of my practice in the car, I do get some strange looks at times, not surprising really. 10 minutes of each half hour lesson are spent just on singing exercises. I never realised just how much stance and breathing affect the quality of the sound. And I've heard of a throat lozenge called a Vocalzone. Many professional singers use them, Tom Jones for one! JohnG.
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Post by oliver101 on Jun 9, 2011 11:50:30 GMT
You are right John, Vocalzone work very well, and can be bought from most chemists. Just dont take too many in an evening otherwise your lavatorial arrangements may need some flexibility.
Ian
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Post by weeo on Jun 9, 2011 12:10:18 GMT
Thanks guys i'll give all that a try. I think i'll practise the knee bending etc in private first (lol)
Regards Eddie
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Post by shyamwestwind on Aug 9, 2011 9:41:12 GMT
I dont know how I missed this post before . Thanks Ian , that'll be useful the next time I get a sorethroat ! Pineapple !!!!! A tasty remedy !!! I used to "gargle my throat with gresh unsalted butter and it did work , but I think the pneapple will be better !!
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Post by doricvision on Aug 9, 2011 21:34:50 GMT
Honey Rum works a treat for me Bigmike
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Post by frankie on Aug 11, 2011 5:52:52 GMT
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Post by JohnG on Aug 11, 2011 8:54:17 GMT
For a sore throat gargle regularly (3 times a day) with a quarter of a teaspoon of salt dissolved in a tumbler full of warm water. Yes, a good glassful. The mixture should only taste slightly salty. Too salty a mixture is not good for the mucous membrane and will do more harm than good. Works most of the time with me.
It's even recommended for tonsillitis! JohnG
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Post by Jacqui on Aug 11, 2011 18:35:37 GMT
Here is a link to something I've used for a long while now, I used to have Vocalzone, but found them quite harsh at times, they can sometimes make your eyes water as they are pretty strong! I like these although they are a little hard to find www.amazon.com/Proctors-228288-Pinelyptus-Pastilles-40g/dp/B001E177IWwww.healthstore.uk.com/p413706/proctors-pinelyptus-pastilles-40g.htmlThey are called Proctors, not to be confessed with other pastilles called Potters, I used to get them in my local chemists but they don't appear to have them on the shelf now, but I asked the other day and they said they could order them in for me, which is a good idea as they only cost around £2.30 to buy and most places charge that again for delivery, give them a try if you see them on sale anywhere. Jacqui La La La La La la La
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Post by shyamwestwind on Aug 12, 2011 17:33:29 GMT
I still have The Entertainers Secret (a spray in a bottle) and its pretty good, but its not available here in India and I have to wait for some good soul to bring it for me from the U.S. I think I'll try the pineapple !!!!! (psssssstttttt !!!! - I'm diabetic) ........ LOL
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Post by oldsage on Aug 15, 2011 23:55:04 GMT
hmm must try that pineapple!!!,trouble is i,d probably want to finish the whole thing lol,it must be an age thing your vocal chords start relaxing and thats the end of a high voice!!.i try tightening my throat muscles,and exercising them,to try and keep them tight,this helps me to reach fairly high,but i have to come down on keys,on a lot of songs.actually no one notices!!!,they think that your singing in the right key!!!!also drink water!!,it helps your mouth not to get too dry,beer and fizzy drinks just make you bloated,and hiccups at times.mmmm still thinking of that pineapple!!!! (love eating them).............Steve
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