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Post by oliver101 on Aug 18, 2009 14:17:45 GMT
Midi has been in existance for a number of years now, is anyone brave enough to predict where the humble midi file will be in 10 or 15 years time. Interesting to know if any members own a crystal ball.
Ian
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Post by mark on Aug 18, 2009 20:07:37 GMT
With technology always improving we will probably have midis with virtual visual orchestra on a huge flat screen behind us.Multiple speaker systems.And we wont have to carry PA equipment as it will all be in a device as small as a credit card.We will all have internal microphone s built into our larynx.I really must stop watching Futurama and I really must take my drugs LOL
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Post by sweeney on Aug 18, 2009 23:13:30 GMT
Hi All!! I cant see anything taking over or even coming close to taking over for a long while yet. It's a system even half wits, myself included can get their heads around and no matter how little or how much knowledge of the operational side we have it works. Also with digital recording gear getting relatively cheap and easy to use at basic level, coupled with a decent soundcard if you dont play keyboard the results can be astounding.........NASA for the billions they spent got one thing definately right. Even though they weren't thinking of musicians when they invented it...........Long may it last..........NYTOL....Gerry
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Post by JohnG on Aug 19, 2009 6:31:26 GMT
And, of course, MIDI continues to develop. The MMA has been working on a new high definition protocol for a while now, something, I imagine that will let us all make better use of the high bandwidth connections now available, as compared to the current, very slow seeming, 31.25kbps. There is also a new RP describing 3D surround encoding on the MMA web site. I reckon MIDI is set fair to last another 25 years with the updates planned. As usual, just my 2d (old money) worth,  JohnG. |
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Post by shyamwestwind on Aug 19, 2009 16:23:24 GMT
MIDI can only be "replaced" with L I V E playing !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mark on Aug 19, 2009 17:35:05 GMT
Shyam You are so right.
I recently played with a live Band. there is nothing that can replace the energy and fun in a totally live performance. No midis were used it was brilliant.
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Post by sweeney on Aug 22, 2009 11:51:14 GMT
I Totaly agree, Provided the guys (Or Gals) around you know when to play and when not to play and dont just play for the sake of playing. I always found drummers a heartache (Myself playing bass) Drummers like Ronnie Duffy (Big Tom) are few and far between. the most of them either want to nail the kit to the stage by battering it or start well and six numbers later get tired (For want of practice) and drag. Midi eliminates all this. I would rather play with midi drums properly sequenced than any drummer I ever worked with.......Only my opinion......Gerry.
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Post by Emerald Midi on Aug 22, 2009 17:11:54 GMT
I personally see MIDI remaining the choice for many in the "biznus" because when some of the bands go back to actually playing they just don't sound as good.
The best known "live" band in my area uses many of the MIDI files I provide them ;d
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Post by weegeo on Aug 22, 2009 18:22:50 GMT
Well Gerry methinks you have made a bit of a faux paux there ggrrrrrr as a drummer myself from the gentle,jazz ,disco,country,rock and the nail them regime lol i can only assume that you have played with some `dobeg`drummers far from it for me to point out [but i will lol]the drummer is the heart and the drive off all bands live or midi and without us you guys would be stuck.
I would love to play live again if only for 1 gig but unfortunately i can`t but i still remember the buzz abd the rush from making the band move. So lets not be hard on the old drummer and remember that a good 1 is worth more than his weight in gold.
weegeo------------- President of the drummers appreciation society 2009
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Post by weegeo on Aug 22, 2009 18:25:36 GMT
Btw i always found bass players very affiable people especially when they could `bounce` of my left foot lol lol
weegeo--------------- still President of the drummers appreciation society 2009
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Post by cptkay0s on Aug 23, 2009 1:18:24 GMT
Hey weegeo, wot's the difference between a pizza and a drummer..........? .....a pizza can feed a family of four (LOL)!!! Sorry weegeo - couldn't help myself But seriously, I tend to agree with you on the relative benefits of having a "real" drummer, but I too can see where Gerry is coming from. The same could also be said about "lead" guitarists who continually break off into repetitive 10 minute solos song after song after song. I also concur with Shyam about playing LIVE, but given the economic constraints facing many venues, "Bang for Buck" (ie a 'big" sound) from a solo, duo or trio act is probably much more attractive (ie smaller fees paid out). Whereas, on the flip side - it's easier to split earnings 2 or 3 ways rather than 5 or 6 (or more)..... Therefore, I can only see MIDI (in whatever incarnation it becomes), continuing to play an integral role in the performance arena, given the flexibility and adaptions it allows for performers. You don't have to share a considerable portion of your earnings with a MIDI player (unless of course, you're starting out, increasing your repertoire or have a serious case of GAS - Gear Acquistion Syndrome  regards Warren ---------------------- equal rights advocate for the drummers appreciation society 2009 |
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Post by freeway on Aug 23, 2009 11:08:54 GMT
Well I agree with all the comments gone before.  ..... Ive learned so much from midi over the past 15 years I'm at last playing the right chords to songs which I had been playing wrong all along .......relied mostly on my ear back then to play along but time to get new ones I think... ;D....back then sitting for hours trying to work out the lyrics of songs then sitting down and learning them off .now of course with the Internet its so easy to get the actual song and lyrics to learn in a matter of seconds ....so when midi came along it was a breath of fresh air to be able to see the actual song structure in depth as well as every single note and to be able to edit the song change key/add verses etc was incredible ...as well as being able to actually sequence a song yourself from scratch it still holds endless possibilities for budding musicians as well as provide us with backing music lets face it in these days its a must now and I dont think could go back playing in a band again .remembering all the squabbles personality clashes egos to contend with the drinking and money issues trying to get some of those guys to practise was next to impossible .........anyway sorry for ranting on a bit but I intend to carry on using midi for the foreseeable future anyway ..although looking at the new Band in a Box "Real Band "which uses real musicians drums etc performed by real session musicians sounds pretty amazing I might be interested in maybe merging both formats sometime in the future......using the same concept as Band in a Box you just type in your chords you can also integrate your own music and midis as well also ideal for those who write their own material ...check out the link ........regards Barry  www.pgmusic.com/ |
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Post by Tubbs on Aug 23, 2009 14:22:56 GMT
I personally think that one of the hardest sounds to reproduce with midi is that of a good drummer, you cannot beat the sound of real drums. In fact nothing beats the sound of a full live band, i use midi because i'm a one man outfit and pubs won't pay the money for 4 and 5 pieces anymore. Lets get real, Midi is brilliant, but it will never replace real instruments for sound. I tried mastering the drums and just couldn't do it so before folk start knocking our drum brothers i suggest they try taking it up...they have my utmost respect. As for a bad drummer letting a band down, surely that goes for all muso,s...i.e. a bad keyboard, bass, lead player will also let a band down.  |
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Post by jerrymc on Aug 23, 2009 19:26:29 GMT
Well I agree with all the comments gone before. ..... Ive learned so much from midi over the past 15 years I'm at last playing the right chords to songs which I had been playing wrong all along .......relied mostly on my ear back then to play along but time to get new ones I think... ;D....back then sitting for hours trying to work out the lyrics of songs then sitting down and learning them off .now of course with the Internet its so easy to get the actual song and lyrics to learn in a matter of seconds ....so when midi came along it was a breath of fresh air to be able to see the actual song structure in depth as well as every single note and to be able to edit the song change key/add verses etc was incredible ...as well as being able to actually sequence a song yourself from scratch it still holds endless possibilities for budding musicians as well as provide us with backing music lets face it in these days its a must now and I dont think could go back playing in a band again .remembering all the squabbles personality clashes egos to contend with the drinking and money issues trying to get some of those guys to practise was next to impossible .........anyway sorry for ranting on a bit but I intend to carry on using midi for the foreseeable future anyway ..although looking at the new Band in a Box "Real Band "which uses real musicians drums etc performed by real session musicians sounds pretty amazing I might be interested in maybe merging both formats sometime in the future......using the same concept as Band in a Box you just type in your chords you can also integrate your own music and midis as well also ideal for those who write their own material ...check out the link ........regards Barry www.pgmusic.com/Barry This new Band in a Box seems interesting. You seem to know something about it, and my question is, for a complete novice at sequencing, which version should I go for???. Do you know if Lyrics can be incorporated into the finished song?? I might consider thiswould be useful to try some original material. Regards Jerry |
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Post by freeway on Aug 24, 2009 1:49:47 GMT
Well Jerry I just know what I read in the website had a few of the earlier Band in a Box versions but was never happy with the sounds intros solos fill etc.......listened to the demos on this one and I was blown away....so to answer your question it depends if your upgrading from a previous ver of BB or just as a first timer ....itll work out cheaper if you had a registerd ver of B B....Id go myself for the basic package which costs about $129 but remember thats just the very basic package there'll be lots of add ons to get later which can be quite costly but for now thats the ver Id go for... less of an outlay in case your not happy you can always add on as you go if your comfortable with the Prog........let me know how you go hope to purchase this myself very soon as well....as regards adding lyrics Id say thats a def option if it can be done in the earlier vers I cant see why not now but you could check that out just to be sure ............regards Barry |
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..... Ive learned so much from midi over the past 15 years I'm at last playing the right chords to songs which I had been playing wrong all along .......relied mostly on my ear back then to play along but time to get new ones I think... ;D....back then sitting for hours trying to work out the lyrics of songs then sitting down and learning them off .now of course with the Internet its so easy to get the actual song and lyrics to learn in a matter of seconds ....so when midi came along it was a breath of fresh air to be able to see the actual song structure in depth as well as every single note and to be able to edit the song change key/add verses etc was incredible ...as well as being able to actually sequence a song yourself from scratch it still holds endless possibilities for budding musicians as well as provide us with backing music lets face it in these days its a must now and I dont think could go back playing in a band again .remembering all the squabbles personality clashes egos to contend with the drinking and money issues trying to get some of those guys to practise was next to impossible .........anyway sorry for ranting on a bit but I intend to carry on using midi for the foreseeable future anyway ..although looking at the new 
