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Post by geraint on May 10, 2011 18:25:31 GMT
I certainly have to change the keys on the majority of my songs. You cant sing Demis Roussos songs with a voice as deep as mine without doing so.
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Post by JohnG on May 10, 2011 20:11:23 GMT
I thought you were going to say ... without damaging something ... shriek!  |
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Post by geraint on May 11, 2011 5:53:21 GMT
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by shyamwestwind on May 11, 2011 7:29:28 GMT
Gerraint, when I first heard your recording on Members stage, I thought of Tex Ritter's " Do not forsake me " from High Noon !!! Do you do hat number ?
Sorry for repeating this but you have an amazing voice !!!
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Post by geraint on May 11, 2011 18:32:32 GMT
I have never sung that song Shyam, but I will give it a go. Thank you for the suggestion and for your lovely comments.
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Post by mark on May 11, 2011 22:03:09 GMT
I have read lots of great advice from some excellent singers. I have to agree always sing in the key that suits your voice. Remember to breathe in and out.We all do it everyday without thinking. With singing it is more controlled. It is great for people who suffer with asthma. I should know.
Keep singing!
Regards
Mark
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Post by oldsage on May 18, 2011 22:35:18 GMT
Yes Mark!!,it does help your lungs and breathing difficulties a lot.About a year ago my lung capacity was only about 70%,and i suffered with chest infections quite a lot.Now a year later it is 100%,and only infections from time to time.The doctor says its the finest cure for asthma,lungs etc,as it builds up the muscle tissues!!..........(fabulous)...............Steve
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Post by doricvision on May 18, 2011 22:54:21 GMT
I remember good advice I got years back from my good mate Weeo who told me to try and find the highest note in the song and see if you can reach it ,if not take it back down till you are comfortable with the high note and set that as your key.
Bigmike
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Post by simmo123 on May 18, 2011 23:39:44 GMT
 Hi Bigmike,because of my limited range (it must be an age thing)  that is exactly what i do & i find that i can usually sing most of the songs that suit my gigs,their is nothing worse than not being able to hit a note & if on the odd occasion whether it be an off day with the vocals when it is a bit of a strain i will sing that note just a little softer but at the same time move a little closer to the mic,the other thing in my favor with me playing basic guitar as well i find the good old capo is a lifesaver as it enables me to play in any key using chords i am familiar with instead of battling with keys i find hard to play simply by moving it up the neck,cheating maybe  but it works for me,come to think of it i have seen famous groups like The rolling Stones with the capo up the fretboard,the other thing about the capo is that sometimes if i sing a song in the key of A i find that i get a fuller sound on my Ovation acoustic guitar by playing in the key of G using open chords with the capo on the 2nd fret.......Simmo..Ps...we are just starting to get our first much needed rains after a really long hot summer,i will have to pick my days for busking which is still going well,i meet up with a lot of interesting folks on the way & have some unusual things happen as well.
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Post by shyamwestwind on Aug 9, 2011 9:59:11 GMT
Will anyone dare to tell me there's a better microphone than a SHURE SM 58/BETA 58 ? I dont think there is. ! If you think there is , then lay your proof on the table and lets vote !!!
I swear its the truest, healthiest, hardiest !
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Post by JohnG on Aug 9, 2011 10:13:54 GMT
Better for what, Shyam?
Wouldn't dream of using it for drums, probably SM57 for them. Or for micing a piano for instance, pair of matched Rode NT5 for that.
Some female singers I know prefer a Sennheiser or Electro Voice for vocals.
And are we talking gigging or recording?
I prefer a large diaphragm condensor mic for recording vocals, too fragile for gigging though.
Have to say the gigging mic is a Beta 58, though I wouldn't call it truest! It tends to favour vocals, and male vocals more especially. Good rejection of monitor sound if you get the placement correct. Very robust too!
But it's just my 2d. worth, as usual!
JohnG.
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Post by frankie on Aug 9, 2011 10:27:16 GMT
I use SM 58 without on off switch. I use it because I got it cheap.
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Post by kemo on Aug 9, 2011 11:30:45 GMT
Will anyone dare to tell me there's a better microphone than a SHURE SM 58/BETA 58 ? I dont think there is. ! If you think there is , then lay your proof on the table and lets vote !!! I swear its the truest, healthiest, hardiest ! Hi shyam, I used to use the beta 58, but I changed last year to the Shure Beta 87A Condenser Mic. I have to say that I did recognise a great difference in my vocal sound from the 58 to the 87A. One thing to be aware of if buying the 87a is that it runs on Phantom Power. |
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Post by JohnG on Aug 9, 2011 12:57:52 GMT
The Beta 87A is a much more accurate microphone in terms of frequency response.
The SM58 and Beta 58 have a very slight presence hump which favours vocals.
The SM58 is slightly lower so favours male voices, the Beta 58 slightly higher which favours female.
Dynamic mics are more robust than condensers generally and cheaper too.
I think the 87A is getting on for twice the price of the Beta 58.
And, as you say Kemo, condensers need phantom power too.
JohnG.
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Post by shyamwestwind on Aug 10, 2011 19:32:55 GMT
HUH  Beta 87A ? I havent heard of that before but if it comes from the House of Shure, it should be good . I will check it out as soon as I know where to find it ! Phantom power is no problem as most mixers have that option. SM57s for droms .. yes, yes, yes !! |
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Hi Bigmike,because of my limited range (it must be an age thing) 
that is exactly what i do & i find that i can usually sing most of the songs that suit my gigs,their is nothing worse than not being able to hit a note & if on the odd occasion whether it be an off day with the vocals when it is a bit of a strain i will sing that note just a little softer but at the same time move a little closer to the mic,the other thing in my favor with me playing basic guitar as well i find the good old capo is a lifesaver as it enables me to play in any key using chords i am familiar with instead of battling with keys i find hard to play simply by moving it up the neck,cheating maybe 
but it works for me,come to think of it i have seen famous groups like The rolling Stones with the capo up the fretboard,the other thing about the capo is that sometimes if i sing a song in the key of A i find that i get a fuller sound on my Ovation acoustic guitar by playing in the key of G using open chords with the capo on the 2nd fret.......Simmo..Ps...we are just starting to get our first much needed rains after a really long hot summer,i will have to pick my days for busking which is still going well,i meet up with a lot of interesting folks on the way & have some unusual things happen as well.
Beta 87A ? I havent heard of that before but if it comes from the House of Shure, it should be good . I will check it out as soon as I know where to find it ! Phantom power is no problem as most mixers have that option.