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Post by oliver101 on Mar 26, 2010 13:20:16 GMT
I too think it is worth further investigation, I would be quite happy to upload my files for others to use even though most of them are pretty MOR.
Ian
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Post by levi2 on Mar 26, 2010 15:03:14 GMT
well to be honest with all the trouble that went on in MM i would agree with tubbs It does takes time money and effort but most of all sifting out which ones are copyright.There plenty of links with midifiles so getting one shouldnt be to much of a problem. Also you will get new members join just to download and give no input. I used to go on a Mirc chat site were any subject was talked about sport music movies and people helped each other with different problems. Then it moved to a karaoke chat site and you could login there would be about 100 members logged in at the same time and you could watch the screen for hours and no one would chat all they were doing was dowloading karaoke files Just my 25p worth lol
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Post by Tubbs on Mar 26, 2010 20:03:30 GMT
well to be honest with all the trouble that went on in MM i would agree with tubbs It does takes time money and effort but most of all sifting out which ones are copyright.There plenty of links with midifiles so getting one shouldnt be to much of a problem. Also you will get new members join just to download and give no input. I used to go on a Mirc chat site were any subject was talked about sport music movies and people helped each other with different problems. Then it moved to a karaoke chat site and you could login there would be about 100 members logged in at the same time and you could watch the screen for hours and no one would chat all they were doing was dowloading karaoke files Just my 25p worth lol Thanks John, and yes you are right in what you say, on MM we had over 800 members and a small percentage actually contributed to the forum, and almost any file can be obtained either by request or links to other good sites. Also as George mentioned, members can share files by using sites like 4shared etc.
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Post by JohnG on Mar 27, 2010 9:08:22 GMT
Hi All, Personally speaking I can quite understand why the decision was made this way, from the point of view of hurt feelings from the past, the potential amount of effort to monitor the files being posted, but also the difficulty of making sure that the posted files are copyright free. Those with any sequencing experience will realise just how easy it is to remove the copyright information from a MIDI file and any "meta data" that might identify the author from the beginning. How then do you know whether the file is a copy? Well, you have to have a copy of the original commercial file and make a detailed comparison, note by note, pitch bend by pitch bend. Certainly there are some utilities out there which can make the job easier, but it is still amazingly time consuming. Not my cup of tea, certainly! However I do have another proposal to put to our hard working administrator and moderators. Would it be possible to to collect together in one place ALL the links to the various MIDI file sites that have been posted over the years? It could be a separate locked section of the forum and could be put in the members only section then be added to only by a moderator. It would mean checking the links on a regular basis to make sure they were still valid. People could still post new links and they could be added to the "master list" with an appropriate comment. Does that make sense? I'll kick off by making an offer to go back over the all the old postings, I have some time available over the Easter break, and to compile a list from the Hangout and from the old MIDImart site then to submit it to Pat and Gerry to do with as they please. ... If you like. As usual, ... you know JohnG.
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Post by Tubbs on Mar 27, 2010 10:18:13 GMT
John, that is a brilliant idea!! Im sure there should be no problem setting it up..i'll look into it straight away..
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Post by freeway on Mar 27, 2010 10:58:32 GMT
Ok Guys. ....thanx to everyone for their input and to admin and mods on considering this proposal. I realise a lot of people were hurt and upset with all that went before so I understand and appreciate the feeling that prob still exists here . John as regards collecting a database of Midi File Sites I don't think would be the same as having our own library here in MH it would mean hours of sifting through diff websites which we can do anytime really I appreciate you also said the the mods and admin would check the links to make sure they were still valid that in itself in my opinion would also be very time consuming. As regards the copyright issue I realise the importance of it all the dangers and concerns it brings to everybody ......after that fiasco at MM.....being a songwriter and sequencer(learner lol) myself Ive often seen original songs of mine (which I posted btw )been stripped of all my info and had someone elses name inserted and the song names changed...I complained and they were removed immediately ..but hey these things happen and there are people out there who just couldn't care less....but there are many good Midi Sites out there with accessible Libraries such as Cool Midi.. Midi Mole and Freshmidis (which I am also involved in) to name but a few . Every midi that is posted in Freshmidis for example is checked immediately for CR by the Mods and is removed immediately if there's any trace of CR obviously there's bound to be ones that make it through now and then files that have had the CR removed but upon receiving a complaint that is removed straight away. We just wouldn't have the time to check and compare each and every file thats posted without CR its just wouldnt be possible . Also on the subject of membership I d say if you done a survey on membership sites Id bet you'd find that the majority of members do not contribute whether there's files to download or not its just the way it is . Anyway guys we can now put this matter to bed and thanx to all for contributing Ive had my say on the matter just wanted to help make this site even better as there are a great bunch of helpful and friendly people here on MH ............ Regards Barry
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Post by frank on Mar 27, 2010 12:15:18 GMT
www.manythings.org/midi/search.htmlThis is all you need. Most files on the net now are in my opinion are not much good for gigging. Most requests are filled here on or off the forum. I have a massive data base of files I have collected over the last 15 years and always fill requests if I have them, as others do. Can we not get over the "problem" by PM attachments that can't be be seen by others.
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Post by JohnG on Mar 28, 2010 16:29:03 GMT
John, that is a brilliant idea!! Im sure there should be no problem setting it up..i'll look into it straight away.. Hi Gerry, Well, I've been through the old site and copied the MIDI and Kar links, that still seem to be working, into a text file which I can post to you. It's still pretty basic and needs some work, I'd suggest, to categorise the info. in it in some way. But it's a start. I'll also take a look at some of the links I've come across over the years and add those. It's your decision, of course, as to where in the forum it gets put, and whether people need to be members before being able to access it. Of course we should still encourage members to post new links and them add them if they're any good. As usual just my ...... JohnG.
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Post by Tubbs on Mar 28, 2010 17:37:34 GMT
Thanks John, if you could post them on to me that would be great..
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Post by shyamwestwind on Apr 8, 2010 11:27:28 GMT
Thats a tricky suggestion and personally I dont think it'll work with all the earlier lessons and hassles. It would have been very useful to have such a vault, but the work involved in keeping it filtered , would be enormous. We are a bunch of helpful friendly guys and I 'm sure we can get what we need from the "Share bAzaar"
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Post by petewalker on Jul 25, 2010 10:55:22 GMT
hiya guys
sorry to hop in so late. wasn't aware about this discussion.
why not having two libraries one for not sure or not copyright free. and another for copyright free.
and to the one thats copyright free u ask a payment if its a not uploading (Sharing) member.
rgd's Pete
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Post by marshallmusic on Jul 24, 2011 21:41:01 GMT
As a newcomer to using (and looking for) midi files with my keyboard setup whilst a midi file library for members would be a good thing, a more useful facility for me would be a comprehensive and up to date index or database of GOOD midi file producers. I have no objection to paying for the tracks that I want, my major problem is finding quality tracks that sound good when played through a quality keyboard rig, good amplifier and heard in front of 300 people at a dance/function. So many of the sites I have visited have loads of titles, most of them are badly arranged and shabby - and definitely not worth the money. The "free" sites vary enormously in quality too but one can hardly complain if they are being given away or "shared". So, does anybody know of a top quality supplier of contemporary files - as more of the arrangers seems to be moving towards backing tracks? I'd really like to know where to look.
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Post by frankie on Jul 24, 2011 22:49:03 GMT
I have found that most midi files purchased need a tweek or cut and paste to extend the length of a song. It also depends on your sound card / module. Back Beat Labrynth Band Tracks Hands On Midi Magic In my opinion are okay. Most requests filled here are top quality.[if you know what I mean]
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